Stay up to date with all the latest news with Wowhead News Notifications! You can make a level 70 of each and play some battlegrounds or arenas and get a feel for each class then make your decision! Fairly decent use trinket to pair with cooldowns. Guess I wont get an answer. TBC Classic Arcane Mage Guide wowtbc.gg Does one scale better with gear upgrades? Privacy Policy. Is destro DPS really unviable in PVE? I play WoW for 2 weeks and i dont really know that much about other classes since i got only 3. Enjoy an ad-free experience, unlock premium features, & support the site! The huge numbers and fat damage meters you see are a reward of technical knowledge, and are rarely just successful button-mashing. My main dilemma is that I currently play Pally and Priest, so adding a third character to my weekly and daily chores, is something I dont wanna do unless its worth it. Do not play frost or arcane. It was the only class I never really played in all of WoW and Ive been playing since High School in 2006. If shadow ends up being stronger than mage you can expect it to get nerfed. Personally I'd go priest, but if you really like rogue then go rogue. Been my main for over a decade (lol what is life). Warlock is the best decision if you want to solely dps. The other benefit of Necrolords is that you can make Haste/Versa legendary on boots and go deep Haste. -RNG all the way. A strong passive trinket option, comparable with the above 2. Simulation results were created with SimulationCraft Using game data from Patch 10.1.5 WoW Dragonflight , While the above highlights the DPS advantages between Arcane Mage and Shadow Priests, the DPS potential should not be the only factor in your decision. How would you compare Spriest vs Mage in WOTLK? : r/classicwowtbc - Reddit Better mogs? Shadow priest, or fire mage? : r/wownoob - Reddit In PVP I am afraid of them again depending on spec/legendary/partner. Shadowflame Prism damage reduced by 15% (doesn't affect insanity generation and Mindbender increase); That didnt answer anything I asked about hehe. But I personally prefer dot specs. Live PTR 10.1.7 PTR 10.1.5. If you can get past the initial more boring levels, it will grow on you. Or can I be drifting taking odd-jobs trying to rediscover themselves after a tragedy? Shadow Priests are crucial to their team. This trinket has fairly poor output but I have heard that the heal can be very helpful in PvP. 50/50 Also destro PUMPS in pvp and all 3 specs are viable in m+ I know the utility is amazing, but I stopped playing shadow priest because I couldn't stand being the very last on DPS. Why You Should Play Shadow Priest in Dragonflight (And Why - Wowhead Also gives you the option of running double dps or heal dps. Below breaks down their current DPS potential and compares the two. Immunities and stun removals do not help against the negative effect of this trinket, likely not worth the risk at all at the Season 2 power level. You basically dot first person with Damnation and then you have instant Vampric touch for second. Here is where every class in the game. Mage This should be your talent build. Topping charts in the PvE scene as a shadow priest is nigh impossible besides fights which require substantial amounts of AoE at regular, short intervals (RS 25hc). Or does SP just FEEL weaker than Mage, because its more in melee range of your opponents, giving it the illusion of being less good in duels? But havin become a medicine man as of late, da priest has peaked my interest. Spriest basically boils down to:- Keep dots up- Use mindblast on cooldown- Use cooldowns on cooldown (if not necrolord), Possible to delay for 10 seconds if your other cooldowns are coming back, or adds are spawning.-. In you opinion which spec Has more fun rotation? Shadow Priest Arcane Mage Affliction Warlock Destruction Warlock Demonology Warlock B Tier: Survival Hunter Feral Druid Frost Death Knight Fire Mage Enhancement Shaman Fury Warrior Elemental Shaman Frost Mage var CoTTooltips = { Shadow priest or Mage? : r/wow - Reddit I'd definitely recommend priest or boomkin so he can try healing or tanking out while still getting caster DPS while also being wanted by most groups. -Always pretty solid at the start of the expansion. Warlock - I heard warlock gets way more fun in wrath so I may hop back on my warlock again. If you like casters, stick with shadow priest and balance druid and you will be happy. Cookie Notice Haha love how some minor irrelevant thing I said, has taken over my topic. Knowing which currently performs better DPS in PvE might help make a decision. 2: Is better at pvp? For more information, please see our I mean all blizzard needs to do is a few changes to make priests stronger in pvp. Rogue mage is decent but not as strong as it was in TBC. Arcane mage is a meme. cms : "", A Month. How do Shadow Priests stand up in Layer 8 Torghast runs as solo vs Warlock? And lock imo really is not actually as bad as people make it out to be sometimes. This page analyzes multiple simulations for both Frost Mage s and Arcane Mage s using profiles and settings intended to achieve their maximum DPS. Mage - I am an arcane mage main in TBC classic and love it. All rights reserved. Mage is a pure dps class, they(pure dps class) should always do more damage. Death Knights and Shadow Priests do better aoe than mages do, and yes - even burst aoe. Imagine spamming all 14 buttons to only do less damage than 1-2 buttons hunter/ww/monk/mage xD. Is shadow fun? - Priest - World of Warcraft Forums In arenas i managed to get to 1.8k with fury main set/wrath off set with a shadow priest destroying full wrath teams. I main a Paladin and want to play an alt. Warlock. 3v3 Arena. Fire youll be very pleased. I hear Shadow Priests are really strong right now, and I noticed Warlocks, even in arenas, aren't as strong as other classes. Whichever you find more fun is only something you can decide so like Ketarra said you should download the PTR and see which one you like more. I don't hate healing, but much rather prefer DPS. Simply browse for your screenshot using the form below. I am a big fan of the chaos bolt destro, but I heard destro is non-competitive in PVE which scares me because it is such a fun spec in wrath haha. What do you guys think,which class is more fun to play,which is better at pvp ? It's a fun class, but be warned it's a difficult class to play. Going to Shadowlands Mage is in a pretty meh position. I also play SP mate and it actually feels the tankiest from all casters. -Only 2 target cleave that won't even work on most raid encounters. Arcane Mage Gear and Best in Slot - Dragonflight 10.1.5 I havent looked into the legendaries for Shadow, why wont they scale as well? forum : "", Get your question answered. Scan this QR code to download the app now. Arcane's strongest trinket ilvl per ilvl in Season 2. If you only care about PvE though you you will spend a lot of TBC at least looking jealously at Warlocks beating you on the meters. 5: Better mogs? I actually have every class at least level 45-50, so any option I could go with. I heard the DPS gets way better in wrath, and based on the fun rotation, I may be leaning towards this as my main. Contribute Either way you can find a third friend and run . A fair bit better if you can actually use the fall damage effect. Mage or Shadow Priest : r/wow Hi guys, Looking to get a ranged dps going (not a fan of melee) to be an alt to my tank. Shadow priest seemed so fun, tanky, and the damage seemed good. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I know Warlocks probably easy because of a Pet, and I know theyre an absolute joke on my Paladin as prot. Talent Cheat Sheets for Arcane Mage 2. Shadow Priest is the most fun spec in the game bar none! Basically includes a lot of if else for talent choices. You can reduce Combustion CD and with Boomy you just dot everything and win with passive damage. Features WoW Dragonflight: Every Class Ranked Best to Worst Dragonflight's nerfs, buffs, and changes have drastically impacted World of Warcraft's PvE scene. It also applies to Boomies, Enh Shaman, Ele Shaman, Ret pal and Arms warrior imo. With Warlocks and mogs I have a fun time because they are supposed to lay low, yet your see their mogs and you can confuse one with Sargeras. Stay away from Mage unless you like Fire. But Id lean slightly to mage as it can have mogs thatd look casual + its especialization. Youre much better off just trying out specs in low lvl bgs. Mage Privacy Policy. Shadow Priests are the superior caster despite their current limitations. var yuicombopath = ''; that said, i think shadow is a lot of fun! But try them all out find what fits you and stick with what you enjoy the most. Access to a Shadow Priest, will highly increase your performance. 2: Is better at pvp? Mage or Shadow Priest : r/wow - Reddit Make dots hit harder, or nukes Change a few of the defensives or just make bubble actually absorb more than a freaking auto attack for gods sake, I dont want shadow to be OP, but like Ret paladin, another spec I enjoy in PvP, I want them to be taken a lot, not left on the invite screen. Considering the gear of your main char I wouldnt even attempt to gear more characters at 60 atm. In my guild on 25m ICC shadow priest is top 1 in DPS charts. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This has always made me sad Since TBC (my first time playing Spriest, was a warlock main in vanilla, sadly) I loved shadow priest! If topping meters is what you want reroll now rather than endlessly putting it off. Thanks! I hear Shadow Priests are really strong right now. Which is looking better in pvp/pve overall. 10.1 Shadow is the new standard. I dont wanna gear a 3rd char if Shadow Priest apparently is a strong dueling spec atm. WoW Dragonflight: Every Class Ranked Best to Worst WW Monk seems super solid right now but I kinda want to play a ranged class. PvE Arcane Mage Stat Priority - Warcraft Tavern I have played Balance, Elemental, Mage and Warlock so far in Dragonflight. I would argue about it. On the other hand when I play Arcane Mage (I dont care about the meta, its my favorite Mage spec), I feel like winning takes careful manipulation of my opponent through CCs and utility. That been said, both classes are very solid choices IMO. I think mages have more fun rotations for sure but honestly nothing beats watching a big fat chaos bolt nail your target, 1: More fun rotation? Arcane Mage Gear and Best in Slot - Dragonflight 10.1.5 . Im torn between who to play. Historically, Mage is the stronger class in almost every form of content. 1). NF is more support version of SP and its rather arena version of SP. var yuipath = 'https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/yui/2.9.0/build'; I like boomy now but I never did before and Ive tried feral a bit this xpac too and enjoyed it more than I did previously. Prefer mid-high tier DPS at least. And even so, Im pretty sure Mage doesnt heal through shields, their shields prevent dmg. Arcane Mage DPS Guide - Dragonflight 10.1.5 - Wowhead Arcane and shadow are both very strong as it stands. For fun and such, Id say Shadow Priest or Arcane mage. Managing your mana/innervates and CD's properly with spamming arcane blast makes it a lot of fun to play personally. $.warmane({currentBackground: -1}); This trinket is more likely to kill you than aid in dealing damage. Its ton of damage and you dont really have to cast a lot. Tuning is done by putting all the specs in a hat and pulling them out 1 by 1 with the first 5 being S tier and the first one being the strongest of that tier. var remoteyui = true; var IMGDIR_MISC = "warmane/misc"; Picking a class for wrath, torn between my mage lock or priest Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. objects: '#fff', They heal way more than hybrids trough shields. Arcane's strongest passive trinket in season 1, even better when allies are using it. However, I know arcane gets revamped a lot in wrath with just 4x AB then AM. Enjoy an ad-free experience, unlock premium features, & support the site! '); Hybrids were way more fun to play back then. PvP mage is the best unless ur doing shadowplay with friends, Theres something about Shadow Priest that draws me to the spec I do not feel this draw at all when playing Mage. 3: Is better at pve? PvP mage is the best unless ur doing shadowplay with friends ETA: I cant tell you who is looking better for pvp/pve as I dont have beta. Priest if you wanna heal/DPS since you get the choice, and shadow isnt bad right now (the scaling later on might be a issue however), Mages are not in a great spot atm outside of fire, and while Afflic for warlock can melt its like playing guitar hero and DDR at the same time with a 9GCD rotation to do damage in your burst window while destro and demo are undertuned in PvE. I did play wrath back in the day so I do have experience for sure(Had zero experience playing vanilla or TBC back in the day so yes I am a wrath baby lol). - Arcane mage and destro lock I have maybe lost a couple of fights against a Mage only because I started to become reckless when I fight Mages, not even really caring, or typing /bored, or, /dance, or my favorite /bye during the fight. Are Shadow Priest now like Warlocks? Moderate passive trinket, it may be better than it looks in dungeons. Mage. Imo mate try Necro SP and you will love it. Not priest UNLESS you also want to heal but if you only want to Dps then youll be stuck playing shadow the whole time. hey all, in this video I'm playing 2v2 arena with a very skilled arcane mage friend at 2300 mmr. A Month. But yeah, mage gameplay is great, its an excellent PvP class and you have the ability to top meters if you are just better than everyone else. Warlock is by far the best fun Ive had leveling. But that is completely irrelevant to what Im asking about. I am so disapointed of mage in SL that I cannot recommend it to anyone. Its the only thing thats viable past a certain point. An okay alternate if you're not lucky on Talon/Irideus. Will primarily or even solely be playing shadow. -Night Fae - its more niche pick but its good with Mage and Kyrian Boomy. Talent Cheat Sheets for Arcane Mage While optimizing talents on a contextual basis is the highly recommended method of setting up your build, the talent builds listed below work great for specific purposes. Thanks for the answer, but I wasnt looking to hear about other classes hehe. Thats definitely got to be accounted for haha. Thanks! Cant say about the other aspects. I will say though that mage has 2 other dps specs to fall back on if it were ever to get nerfed so bad it felt unplayable or just not fun. Arcane Mage DPS Spec, Builds, and Talents - Dragonflight 10.1.5 I have it narrowed down to Pally and Priest, and then maybe Mage. However to me, it feels like the SP playstyle is about standing still, and survive for long enough through healing until my opponent dies Basically trying to outlive my enemy by applying DoTs and healing myself, until the DoTs kill them. Warlock is fun and easy to level but doesn't seem as good . Frost vs Arcane - Mage - Best DPS in WoW Dragonflight 10.1.5 - Noxxic I just came back a week or so ago from taking a break from WoW since mid last patch, so ALL of my characters are at the same ilvl as this Pally Im writing from. WW Monk seems super solid right now but I kinda want to play a ranged class. I have enough mats to make the inscription staff and upgrade it a bunch, and I have 2 level 90 casters that could use it. Playing a warlock in PvP just like any sustain-magic damage class is very technical and is more about planning than reacting. Sad reality in WoW. BiS List 9. Phase 3 Best in Slot Gear Guides - WotLK Classic - Wowhead and thats really all Im interested in. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. var SESSIONURL = "s=4beb91f34a18a77bbad28b43b4797b64&"; Hexx be havin a dilemma. Live Posted 2023/02/02 at 8:52 PM by Wowhead. Is one the AoE king? Priest to kill a Mage. In my guild on 25m ICC shadow priest is top 1 in DPS charts. 2). spells: '#839309', if (!yuicombopath) 2007 called, they want their design philosophy back, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. HELPPP!: How do you RP as a Shadow Priest, or Priest in general!? Leveled Druid 1-60 on Shadowlands launch to try something else and didnt like tank spec, didnt enjoy their healing compared to other classes Ive played, and I enjoyed feral the most but no one likes a feral druid. I main a Paladin and want to play an alt. rename: true, Shadow priest also does well here but I think the right warlock type for your play style can also be very good.