Your thoughts on what you think about anyones life and let God deal with them , and not annoy them or drive them crazy to the point were they cant handle it and take their life. To answer your question concerning ministers or more specifically pastors paying tithes, theoretically the answer is yes. And once He forgives us, He cleanses us from ALL unrighteousness (I John 1:9). -Click on the profile picture. See??? His hair was considered to be too long, and his wife and daughters did not always wear skirts or dresses. That was way down in her subconscious. I know you are not going to try to convince others that you are not Rita, cause you cant or you are afraid of what else will come out about your sweet little self. And even the more if you were in the choir or had family member that was some important person. Dear Bro I am pretty sure 4oo others left not just me, or did you mean why it had to be you all? Now. I still havent had an answer about deleting this entire website cept from Gary, who wanted to keep his remarks up, Cuts too close to the bone?? God is the Word. I am also amazed at how the older I get the less I know. God spoke through him just as he was leaving, Ephraim is married to his idols, let him alone, Hosea 4:15. However, I need to remind you brother than Brother Lance Le Roux is not an angel and at some point he would do mistakes, and I guess the trend that you have established would mean a new church would emerge. Youre not with your husband. Take this all in love, from your white, hotdog eating, NASCAR watching, trailer court living, baseball cap wearing, gut hanging out, cracker brother from across the seas If this was out there in the REAL world Im pretty sure you would have been shut up a long time ago. All I can tell you is that we are all not perfect , so instead of wasting so much time on this blog , let get in the message , be more in prayer for one another Please just leave this blog alone its got enough of your not so helpful comments already!!! Bro Ed had already assured the congregation that any puplic or private conversation about the issues borderd on comitting the un pardenable sin. Writing a letter [I have never had of this in my entire life [18 years] in this message] I just wonder if in Brother Branhams language you were guilty of writing cards and this time not to remove Brother Neville but now is Brother Ed Byskal. And if you told him with all the brethren we are going to present this before the church on Sunday, because thats the biblical way he would have had to react. Perhaps you should listen to the sermon Unfailing Realities of God (60-0626). E-37b So the only eternal Achievement there is is Jesus Christ. Our mutual burdens bear; I would be scared to death if I was a preacher & visiting your area. Thank you for your kindness to all concerned. Caching it worked. I also believe the Lord needed others to make a stand (speaking the truth in love) & leave. A man without character cant reign because power apart from character is Satanic. You ever stop to think that your family wants you to drop it and your fellow brothers and sisters want you to stop but they are just too polite and dont want to offend you so they dont bother saying anything. Its probably easy for me to talk because I dont know what all you have gone through with these bros. Be a Christian; be a gentleman. I am glad that you know the song by Kansas called Dust In The Wind is there something wrong with the name Dust In The Wind? Bro Ed was up set that the storys did begin to be repeated to others on a very smale scale. Everyone has gotten way to soft!!! It makes me wonder what you have against brother Ed after all Cause you have already made your point clear , we got it already , but dont over do it cause you are just messing it up now . The Lord richely bless you all Gary White & family. But it has a natural explanation and had nothing to do with appearing to Wm. I dont put the same amount of wait on it that you do but its there for you if you care. ESPECIALY those that are in leadership positions.. That boy needs to learn to shut up already or just have someone cut out his tongue and staple it to his forehead his wisdom is lacking he attacks the very person that used to pat him on the back and said good boy to. Arrogance is not of God. This was practiced & preached by bro Branham. Forgive those you think done you wrong. 2. If a brother was a minister and he did something that disqualified him from the ministry (see Marraige and Divorce), that does not mean he cannot be forgiven. So Bro Gary the ball is right now in your court. HOWEVER, IF YOU FAIL TO RESPOND TO THESE QUESTIONS THEN MY ADVICE WILL BE TO REMAIN SILENT ON THE ED BYSKAL MATTER AND MAY BE TELL THE PEOPLE THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR ANOTHER CHURCH NEXT TO THE BORDER[If you allow us (Americans) to come to your Canadian church then we (Americans) will continue to let you (Canadians) listen to our American prophet. Not forgiveness! Also did you and the other deacons take time to present the issues, from the pulpit, to the whole church before you left? As I said earlier are you out raged by what YOU percive as attacks on the leadership at CBW. I believe that the sacred desk is not the right place to argue out your point, especially when the other side is not allowed a voice. we should not wait for them to come and apologize so that we can forgive them. Pretty good deal I would say for a handful of people living off the sweat and blood and blisters of others!!! Isnt every message church sovereign? You know like some might be tempted to think, I pay my tithes to you and in turn you pay yours to me. It has a lot to do with the motive and objective. If you do not wish to believe the balance Bro Branham taught, then why arent you still in the denominational system you came out of? I know many people of many different ethnic backgrounds and never once have I been racist. the elders tried that on a smaler scale & it failed because of none cooperation by the ministry. Thats the life of Christ, to prefer your brother, sister. Well catch craw dad together someday on the other side I hope! You see the well intentioned ones opinion was sorely skewed because of the timing in which he arrived on the scene, and not being willing to step back to see what actually was occurring before his eyes. Gary to respond. LUKE 6:34 All hail the power of Jesus Name, Is the song that Bro Branham said would be the inaugral song in Heaven. Oh, what treasures are laid up for those who are willing to enter into His kingdom through much tribulation. Youll never make them any better by kicking them around. Eyewitnesses - Cloverdale Bibleway T here have been many that walked with William Branham in various aspects of his life. I guess especially somebody created an character called Tsanning to undermine the dignity of Ed Byskal, and undermined the this quotation of our dear brother. The Family Altar Vol.1. 1. Gary I do forgive you in my heart deep down.I forgive all of yallits the flesh that wants to strike back even 20 yrs laterbut in my heart. We have more wealth than we have ever had and yet less is being accomplished Spiritually. They got the money out of the account for other legitimate reasons. What does it matter anyways? I know where I stand. All in the Name of God Gary? The only martyrdom you experience Gary is the problems you make for yourself. And that no matter what human mistakes he made, the case was settled. If a person wants to brag about what a great thing they did, then they really werent trying to help: they were only boosting their own ego. The rest of you reading do the same the elevator isnt reaching the top floor on this site. !, You dont live in bc , dont know bro Ed . ev@theeaglesview.org The article was written about 3 or so yrs ago. And how do they try them? E-42 Simeon, this great old saint of God, he was a man of great reputation. I think what you should do the next time anyone had wrong intentions and questions about cbw , you tell them to pray for the saints at cbw and the pastor instead of displaying their wrongs Thank you. When anyone points out today that only their tactics have changed but not their motives and underlying agenda, that person is considered politically incorrect, intolerant and evil. Thats how Brother Branham clearly instructed it. To much petting around, we need the old fashion Gospel (Amen.) I love the joke that you shared with us If you let us [Americans] come to your Canadian church we [Americans] will to let you [Canadians] continue to listen to our American prophet] I appreciate your humour my dear brother. I would like to talk privatly with you if thats ok. Do you have my email?? The Apostle Paul in a letter to the Believers at Corinth. If you are braking the Word, you are still anti-Word. . She did not listen to my advise because she was so offended that a minister would take something out of context just to blast another church. My beloved brothers and sisters, the blood of this country, and especially this community where were living in, is now in our hands, one day we will respond for the time God gave on earth and for those lost sheep that we never get to look for, while we were so much preoccupied to protect and fight for our influence. You couldnt help but to see this as an insult hurled at this people and phrases like drinking cool aid and I will make him pay dominated Tsanning blog. I know no one is perfect and certainly not looking for the perfect pastor cause I will not find him , and you are far away from being one I believe what happened here in cbw is already under the blood and therefore I can not go unto it , if God himself cannot find it . You had to be with the disciples; you had to be with all the Scripture, with the church when it was commissioned. Even though it may seem like a one way love affaire at times. And is not here tonight, so I can really pour it on the way I want to. When you look at the below quote then you will see that the Cloverdale Bibleway Church is part of the Bride, and that Ed Byskal has colleagues in the ministry as senior pastors in their respective assemblies. So the next year, my apple crop got hit with a plague called apple scab. MATTHEW 5:41 He spoke about her as a woman from another church that was friends with someone in the assembly and comes sparingly to the meetings. He has no control over it. Let everyone in his own position and church or pastor serve God to the best of his ability. You wrote It is very unfair to not allow an assymbly to be made known of these things, especialy in the case of pedophilia, where other victoms may be taken advantage of.. Now , we have you left , accusing me of twisting things , tell me what did I twist ?? Maybe if anything a few of us learned from this past week or two on this blog is how the tongue (pen, keyboard) can really hurt others and how its not such a nice feelingits a horrible feeling to be murdered and live thru it! I would like to express that I feel uncorfortable with revealing some of the things that I have spoken about on this blog or what ever it is. As you can see its been more than a month you kept on posting your comments, but it never brought any good conclusion. preached in its power of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. Another bro heard the rough sermons & thought God was condeming him because his sons were not comeing to church. I asked you if you had even spoken to him on these things , not the two brothers from south Africa , but bro Ed . Ed told me that I was blaspheming the Holy Spirit by not believing everything the prophet said because he was the Word of God for the hour. We just had him over for diner, he has been a good freind to me & Bro Ed for many years. Id say, Lord, fill this one back up again. Maybe cause your just the same?? He is like his house guarded by Smith & westion, using the word sucks, I am a sicko, fool, should be beaten, smacked up side the head, we executed people for the boss etc etc & then you say how wonderfull it is that he has forgiven me & dosent hold any grudges??????????????????????????????????????/. Big deal!!! andthen, unbelievably, Tsanning deleted parts of comments Now the Lord God Almighty says, I KNOW. There He is walking in the midst of His people. It is to shake them from there indefirence to Christ Body. We to easily get caught up with the charisma & personality of our dynamic preachers, dont get me wrong I love it but lets go wild over our savior & his Word. and after we forgive them we should extend an olive branch to them and tell them that we love them and we are praying for them regardless of what they have done unto us. Yes or No will help especially in the context of your subliminal allegation that you left because Ed Byskal was not the kind of Pastor that Br. Weird thing is.I rarely bother to look on here anymore but today at work for some reason I was thinking of that old song called Dust In The Wind and the words to it and how we are truly just that.Dust In The Wind. To me thats overboard religious I think its time for you to stop Gary I am sure if we dug into your life, we could easily find garbage you would be horrified about. We have decided to remove certain information on this blog as it seems, some elements felt that we were getting too personal. Now you have tried to turn this into a doctrinal split which has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. 12:6, For whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom He receiveth. 3. 10-1208 The Family: Pre-Millennium Cleansing Pt-2 Andes, John And who gets the money when the church decides maybe one day to shut down or sell the building and property? I belive that our husband is a jelouse husband He doesnt like seeing me be overly enamoured by any other man but HIMSELF. What if some of the things he says on here are dead wrong? So please keep praying for us & our situations. Brother Shalom I strongly agree with you that this blog doesnt have any good reason. (ha). 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. My hat is off to you dear ministering bretheren, I would not want to trade places with you for all the tea in China. So your assertions against Bro GW doesnt hold much water. True colours have really been shown. Also why would his paid staff deliberately split the church of an individual that didnt side with his unscriptural way of handling sin in the leadership positions of the church? Are you able to stand correction from the pulpit or do you follow the spirit that Gary White expressed i.e. You hold on to your assumptions even when you are shown those assumptions arent necessarily correct. Psychology will lead you to call a healthy body cancerous and a cancerous body healthy. There is no age free from it. Ill do my utmost best to not comment any further! Since you do no know about this feature, how do you know when a comment is made? LUKE 6:41 I forgive you for your comments against me. Bro, just forgive them. Ed delivered that sermon are certainly deafening especially when he comes to the part when he speaks about Grace. I did not once speak to Brother Edward Byskal or the other Brethren you have mentioned but I was compelled to stand up and say something about the issue if in the least to offer an objective viewpoint detached from the strong emotions circulating at the time. Then give him a good hand shake or something like that. Say it how it IS!!! Then you go on to say if a person doesnt love you or the Bible enough to do that simple step its time to go back to the ABCs of the Message. I promise you that I will be as quiet as the LORD tells me to be. It happened this year. As an aside, I DO believe in the cloud, I have tons of Newspaper photos of it, including LIFE magazine and others, who gave me written permission to use their photos and articles. Bro doctrinally speaking, just because a brother is a pastor, doesnt mean he will lead you through. If Ed Byskal goes to the family and really apologizes, would you return to the Cloverdale Bibleway Church? ooooh my Precious Brother Gary, that is very, very good of you to be listening to tapes. So bro i love you and please forgive my stupidity and my faults. Also just because a brother becomes a pastor does not mean he doesnt have to obey the Word anymore. I was a sinner at that time. No, Im a Sunday school teacher. You got spiritual amnesia. Which spirit would that be? Sorry . I know this whole thing is very hard to deal with & to grasp, to me it can get very complicated. What happened to just spitting out the pits? LIKE A MIGHTY ARMY I thank you for your council & will remind myself of it daily. I complained to the SA brothers about it and went to bat for the brother out in Canada who thought he was having a private conversation which ended up being posted why dya think I am after Gary to shut his mouth on here? I am so shocked when I hear of such hatefull, bitter & viscouse curseings spued out because some one doesnt agree. Byskal will receive them when he is able to. I will wait for the answers to the questions that I have raised with you. Please explain to me how he birthed us into the Kingdom but now we are headed for destruction. You are condemning Jesus Christ for leading His disciples out of the Pharisees and Saducees. Bro Madiba and Batsi have NOTHING to do with what occurred in BC and I think Gary is in the wrong to go dump his guts to whoever will listen. (ha), Remember Bro Branham saw us being influenced by that US church dancing to rock & roll. I am in total harmoney with your idea of everybody wanting to go on with life & the Lord. Never ever sing that note that this is a Canadian problem as by now it sounds too boring for my ears. Bro Branham would call this mudering Bro Tonys influence. We left! Ed going to hold a service at Living Word fellowship and The pastor at Living Word going to hold a service at cloverdale. If you are ever in the Nashville, TN area, Ill buy you a coffee. Thanks for your comment! I think I will put this thing to bed.again! Did you hear the service before the split where Bro Ed informed the church that the police bro that turned in the sexual abuse case to the law, was a repeated adultrier, & how his wife came to him (Bro Ed) sobing in his office. A number of young men started listening to Branhams tapes and before long Bible Way became wholly involved with Branhams message. Oh, goodness, gracious! Im kinda lost ShalomShalom Youre in support of splits? for so did their fathers to the false prophets. Recently, I witnessed for the second time the same man do this to the same pastor. Thats what the world needs today. It was a disaster. Again I will say that I dont no who gave this info to this woman or what was there intent, but I do know that Bro Lance has officialy & publickly condemned it & ask that it not continue, if it is any body in our church. LUKE 6:40 TF. Not all the people on that forum got made into fools by Tsanning. For what its worth I made phone contact recently with bro Tom Ray. See? God bless you my bro. LO! You think you know how everyone else should live, but you and your denomination is incapable of living by the standard you try to hold everyone else to? Pray for us at Living Word many of us are still trying to recover from these unfortunate events that we have had to endure. Tuesday we often listen to a tape. I got her in a room. 11-0130M Our Journey To Liberty Rae, Tom Your assumption is based upon naivety and ignorance. See? Ha ha! (New International). I have not read all of the comments posted here, so forgive me if my comment is a repetition. Your bitterness will kill you my son. The man worships under his pastor and as the years go by; the spiritual stability he receives under the ministry reflects in his workplace. If they never had this pointed out by the Holy Spirit (perhaps through other vessels of God) how will they ever know they need help and deliverance? I would never suggest to someone, that God somehow likes it when he gives up his posessions. Saying you are showing corrective love is garbage those are just nice words to justify and shroud your spewing of sewage. Why do you remind me so much of the poster called sis Rita? The pulpit became hijacked by angry & desperate men who used the pulpit to craft there way out of the scandels, twisting quotes & scripture to excuse them selves & to lable all opposition as devils who were guilty of acuusing the bretheren. Until you have looked death in the face, I dont see how you can understand the pressure the nicolaitains can put on people. In the cases of grace and mercy being extended as our examples in the Bible, the people that received the grace and mercy was shown they didnt have to remain in the filth and mire while claiming to be in grace.